published 22 November 11

Forces-(Starts in Middle) for this America shall be purged very dearly and strongly. You cannot continue to live like this and not bear the brunt of the consequence. We are preparing to set the consequence on America and all those individuals in the Country that refuse to discipline their own desires, it will not be a pretty thing or happy item but this discipline must come about or else there shall be explosions throughout the world. As we have said the hour has come, the moment has arrived and great changes are to come into the earth. There shall be great upheavals throughout the many major countries. We also see the expersion of great vastness of power coming from all sorts of directions. In order to maintain some order you must have control over the things at your disposal. In this situation coming into America can be alleviated if people simply turn to the spiritual viewpoints rather than the physical and mental desires and then the Country could be put back into some order. We also have many strange elections and conditions, catastrophes along the coast lines and internals the country. But in short it is a moment of change and discipline in many respects. This cannot be stopped, it is only that it must be disciplined and brought into a proper perspective of control. (If?) there is no control for then things will definitely be out of control.
Forces-Now ready for your questions.
BB-Is it true what Lobsang Rampa said you can get out of your body faster when it’s cold?
Forces-Certain conditions do gravitate to releasing the astral form in the cooler weather than in the heat of the weather.
BB-Thank you.
GL-Is there another body, let’s say we go out of the astral body?
Forces-There is some form that sounds like this but generally they are incorporated into a one force.
GL-Would there be any guidance for me at this time?
Forces-By keeping at the work your hands and mind and the patience.
GL-Thank you.
DD-The seven medals do they go along with the Book of Judges, the Chapters?
Forces-repeat.
DD-The seven metals (alchemy) do they go along like a metal to each 3 chapters?
Forces-Yes they would be able to place them in this particular book.
DD-And each metal represents a certain thought?
Forces-A thought process of deduction and evaluation.
DD-One time I know you said that Revelation is in the Mind?
Forces-It is in this particular line that you have the creation of order, if one is to perceive order one must understand the power of a line.
DD-Thank you very much.
BR-Can it be given how Mary Magdalene died?
Forces-She closed her eyes and died. More or less of health reasons of the body.
BR-Could anything be given on her last years on that life with Jesus?
Forces-More so encouraged and enkindled the faith among those who believed.
IS-What kind of physical ailments were Mary Magdalene’s lot?
Forces-More of a kidney problems and lung difficulties.
IS-Is that Karma of that particular lifetime or was it something from other lifetimes?
Forces-Other items being rectified.
IS-She understood all that?
Forces-Not particular-ly.
BR-How old was she when she died?
Forces-Some say 40 some say 58.
BR-Thank you.
RH-Should I fast during the days on Thursdays?
Forces-All depends upon your own thoughts on this.
RH-Would it be spiritually bad for me to keep the fast????
Forces-Keeping the partial fast would be all right.
RH-Thank you.
RH-The fairies that are found in the flowers, the flower fairies how do they differ from the elementals of the earth like the elementals that are found in the woods or the grasses? Are they the same as the elementals or are they more intelligent and different?
Forces-One is giving of beauty the other one is giving of the characteristics of strength, emotions.
RH-Thank you.
RU-About three weeks ago I had a dream that I told IS. About going up in this rocket. Could you give me an explanation of what it meant?
Forces-Sometimes we can interpret that in three different ways. The ego has a sense of projecting you up into a rocket, but you can no longer be your true self but do and be active on levels of reaction on an egotistical thought form, no longer being your true self but an instrument and (—-) of ego.
RU-Can you give the other levels?
Forces-If you capture all the force field together it could be breaking the boundaries of ego and moving forward into that of humility.
RU-Thank you.
NN-Could you tell me what the dream meant that I had the other night about the old lady in the old ladies home and the feeling of being very oppressive and being in prison. It seemed to be in the dream that we were going to get her out or that things were going to be ok.
Forces-More or less the faith aspect within self, having the faith that you can come out and start doing other than being the old lady.
NN-Thank you. Also in the Session before last you were saying about the Elohim being the feminine and Yahweh being the masculine, what would Adonai be?
Forces-Well we would say combinations of such. Also this covers a certain type of consciousness of God, certain manifestation of water and construction of sound.
NN-Could you explain what it means construction of sound?
Forces-Creations of other Galaxies and possibilities, many people believe that it was an explosion that created the Universe. Others believe that it was just happening. But the creation of the Universe was created by sound.
NN-Thank you. Also would you explain the difference between bless the lord and praise the lord as far what…?
Forces-One has a different sound and a different thought feeling. One comes from a certain center and one comes from a higher center. One comes from the center of the tongue or speaking and the other one comes from the Thyroid center of singing.
NN-Is praise the Lord from the Thyroid?
Forces-Correct.
NN-Thank you. And bless the Lord is from the tongue?
Forces-Correct.
NN-Then how does it affect the tongue?
Forces-It seems to spiritualize the atoms within the tongue.
NN-Just by saying the words, Bless the Lord?
Forces-Correct.
NN-Thank you.
MK-How did sound create the Universe?
Forces-We have to ask them some day.
MK-Where did the sound come from?
Forces-Sound was in the very midst of everything. Think on it for a while it’s a nice puzzle to come into some understanding of sound.
MK-Thank you.
JE-Can you give me guidance on the two jobs I’ve been offered?
Forces-Each one seems to have a certain characteristics within it. Each job has a certain amount of benefits. Each job has a certain amount of responsibilities. Responsibilities in areas or avenues explained must be interpreted and determined by self. (——) you feel that you are desirable into the need or into the work that you might be the best of help. Both jobs can offer a certain amount of constructive growth therefore it is not right for us to say take this over that and also look for the purpose of growth within self rather than the aspect of self within the job.
JE-Thank you.
JU-Is the job that I have taken the best one for my development?
Forces-It would be if you do not eat too much meat. We also say if you discipline to this particular job and make it formulize, formulize a pattern of work habits. Also organizing yourself in the time aspect and being in this house at a certain moment, allowing so much what would be called extras after the work (hour) there would be excellent in developing your solar plexus.
JU-Thank you.
IS-That is one of his main problems the faith?
Forces-Well we would find the big hat that this particular chakra (represents) covers a certain amount of energy within the body. The solar plexus sends energy up over the head.
JU-Thank you.
IS-Is there a third job for JE or should he choose between these two?
Forces-There will be a job manifesting in time that would be more beneficial for his development certain aspects first must be worked out before this other particular job manifests.
IS-So that other job is sufficiently far away for him to take either one of these jobs?
Forces-Well again it’s the attitude that needs to be worked with; this other job can manifest today or tomorrow or four months from now. Until this personal type attitude is corrected.
IS-What is the problem that JE is not allowing that thing to manifest tomorrow?
Forces-The aspect of humility in certain respects and also being receptive to a spiritual work a spiritual work just being (a bit) more receptive which is important for this other job that will come his way. But it’s by being receptive in this other job that will be his biggest asset.
IS-Thank you.
IS-You said that America will go through a purging and if America will not go through a purging then that means that the whole world will go into earthquakes and catastrophes of that sort. What kind of purging is America going to go through that will not affect the rest of the world and what should we do?
Forces-Purging of more of disciplining of the demands in America, demands for things. Aspect is what should you do, well demands for things must be put into order so when you do have what you do have you have respect, simply respect for the items of everything that has been given to you and not to throw it over your shoulder and have the thoughts of no respect for anything, by feeling you don’t, either have possession or have enough or not want to believe that the future will keep on giving to you. If you have respect for everything that is in the house and then that will mean the keeping of safety and the preserving of the future things to come.
IS-Is there anything that we should prepare?
Forces-It is more of an internal conflict. As long as you keep to the spiritual road and spiritual consciousness it will Passover.
IS-Is it already happening in America?
Forces-To certain degrees it is.
IS-How is it happening MKets are being, the dollar is slowing down, is that…?
Forces-That’s one chain reaction.
IS-And in conjunction with that whatever money let’s say we do have should we exchange it for gold?
Forces-Well we would have that understanding it is not money that will save the individuals in the future, it is again the spiritual beliefs that will save.
IS-Thank you.
IS-In the meditation room because of the stone around its sometimes very cold, is there anything that can be done to help it out?
Forces-Well the materials and rugs and the curtains would help tremendously. A refractor of absorbing the sunlight within the room could be used. But generally in time it will be working itself out.
IS-I see thank you.
IS-You take care of us and I don’t know who else but who’s taking care of or in charge of other people? Are there other branches, wings of beings that take care of them in a different way or are they just being taken care of by certain laws?
Forces-Every individual is being taken care of in a circle. Either you form a circle or you’ll be put into a circle in that circle all laws and regulations and rules that is implied to every individual be it state or government or country or county or city or building or person. Each one is put into a particular circle to develop.
IS-So we are in a circle this group?
Forces-Correct.
IS-So on each circle are there other beings that are in charge of or is it just governed by laws?
Forces-Its governed by a higher (it’s a) spiritual law.
IS-But that’s why when you said you weren’t really that much involved with the non original disciples what it means is that they weren’t in your circle is that correct?
Forces-Well they were on an extreme outer circle.
IS-The disciple were or the other people?
Forces-More so the others.
IS-In different circles they were?
Forces-Different spheres of influence
IS-When Edgar Cayce would give a Session he would actually go into the sphere of influence of a particular circle?
Forces-This could be so.
IS-So if we ask a question that is not related to people in this group you have to go to another circle and find out?
Forces-Receive the answer correct in their perspective sphere to receive an answer what they can understand.
IS-To give us an answer that somebody else would understand?
Forces-More or less to receive an answer that can be applied in many respects.
IS-When we ask a question about somebody you go to that sphere of influence or you receive the answer from that sphere of influence you have actually touched upon that person is that correct.
Forces-Correct.
IS-So by asking a question about a person his destiny might be changed?
Forces-That’s correct.
IS-Or karma may go faster things like that?
Forces-That would sound correct.
IS-Thank you very much. Are there any other beings that take care of different groups?
Forces-You have different groups that have different angels and solar servants taking care of them.
IS-But not you?
Forces-Well not us personally no.
IS-But yet you are in charge of all of them?
Forces-Well of course.
IS-Thank you.
BB-When we meditate is it angels and guides and one or the other that will be with us sometimes?
Forces-More a (——) will be guided at all times and all places by a different servants from the above.
BB-Thank you.
GL-Could you explain the Bible verse that Jesus said “I am the vine and you are the branches “?
Forces-More or less the explanation of the Spirit of Life and the Revelation that comes from the vine into branches.
GL-The solar servants that you mentioned who would these be?
Forces-Those who are working on the Solar Plexus stage.
GL-Would they be like Archangels or Angels.
Forces-No, more Angels, a different form.
DD-What does your alphabet look like?
Forces-It’s not so complicated we use more mental telepathy than the basic alphabet that you all need on the earth.
DD-The Hierarchies supposedly have language like there is symbols for it?
Forces-Language is almost the same as other Hierarchies its different and more complicated as you go up higher.
DD-How would it be structured would it be like the Hebrew alphabet only more complicated?
Forces-Yes you could have it as such.
IS-The Hebrew alphabet as it is today or the original Hebrew alphabet?
Forces-Most seems to be alright more important is the original one.
DD-How was the original how did it look like anything today, more straight lines?
Forces-More than what would look like today.
DD-What does it mean by order the way you use it?
Forces-More or less the properties of humility and patience in working through the ways of life.
DD-Does it mean like one thing after another like line upon line precept upon precept?
Forces-This can be true but each particular job will be manifest and take care in itself.
DD-Thank you very much.
LK-Is my understanding of the problems I had with the fruit lamp today correct?
Forces-This are near to correct.
LK-Could anything be added to that?
Forces-More than just time doing it with patience and understanding should work itself out.
LK-Thank you very much.
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BR-an old man that is part of the group his name is grandpa and he walks in the house he doesn’t say much but every time he is in the dreams that dream comes true. Could you tell me who he is?
Forces-This could be the person who carries on search (certain) forces from this world to the next the messenger.
BR-Thank you.
RH-A long time ago it was given in a Session that the guardian Angel for the house was Luriel that was in New York is that the same guardian angel or do we have a different guardian angel?
Forces-You have two basic ones one of course Luriel as you’ve mentioned and the other one is located in the meditation room under the name of Metatron.
DD-Was he in the Flushing meditation room too?
Forces-More or less not directly this is the first direct assignment.
IS-Is that part of the cold in the room also?
Forces-The transition was the same you would find that Solomon had the same problem with his Temple.
IS-Is it because of that force?
Forces-The force in itself and the acclamation of the force and bringing down certain powers into the room.
IS-That’s what you meant it will get better?
Forces-Correct.
RH-Thank you.
NN-Who were the four angels that were involved with the Ascension of Jesus?
Forces-Well we had certain servants and lookout angels you had Metatron who was involved you had Raphael, GL and you had Michael you had Uriel.
NN-Thank you.
NN-What does it means the ends of the earth.
Forces-It means the earths from the beginning to the ends of the earth, the beginning of substance to the end of all substance and all being could be the aspects and developments operations of power of material force coming in to its most secret spot of energy.
NN-Thank you.
JU-both this time in terms of the job and several other times when you give me advice you talked about the Solar Plexus is this the main area or the only area that I should be concerned with this lifetime or is it to be worked on now?
Forces-Something that has been neglected for a long time, it needs to be worked on before physical ailments start manifesting.
JU-And then if this is accomplished…?
Forces-Then we shall go on to your next center.
JU-Is there any other guidance on this job that you can give me at this time?
Forces-Well discipline and harmony and controlling and working out the time factors.
JU-Anything about the (being Jacob)?
Forces-Just be receptive to a personality that could be and would be needing some guidance in his own particular life.
JU-Thank you.
IS-At one time I actually saw somebody who was reading my dream is that correct?
Forces-Sending it to you is more like it.
IS-Is there such a thing as a dream weaver?
Forces-(—-) Yes you would consider something like that.
IS-His specific job is to create it in the astral for me or for anybody to see and then the mind brings it back is that it?
Forces-More or less.
IS-So it’s not always that you go to that place but never the less it has to become a reality since it has taken shape and form in the astral?
Forces-More or less.
IS-I had some dreams about closets and holes in the closet floors what does that dream mean something there needed to be taken care of and I can’t remember what it was?
Forces-It’s only the philosophy and the completion and the fulfillment of what happened with David in receiving of his own interpretation and regulations and rules of the house. If you would turn to the first Book of Chronicles the 28th Chapter the 19th the 20th and the 21st verse you would find this is the situation you will be going through as long as for the meaning of this particular house you will find the answer you will find the answer on the 29th Chapter of the first Book of Chronicles. The Palace is not made for man but for God, 1st verse.
IS-And the Chapter 28 was it also Chronicles 1?
Forces-First Book of Chronicles.
IS-Thank you very much.
DD-Could you tell me about the dream I had last night someone else making the harp and I said I should have made it?
Forces-It is times to make certain musical notes and harmony but thought patterns must be disciplined. Remember people the House that you create here is for God if you do not put your thoughts into it if you are not discipline your thoughts you will not be into creating you will only be into getting away from it. Thinking process can be a trap there are many excuses why not to do something. A thinking process must be worked out and the best process of thinking is to get closer to your God.
DD-In the dream am I supposed to do it myself?
Forces-No one else can do it for you.
DD-I let emotional things get in the way.
Forces-Certain aspects of ego.
DD-Thank you very much.
BR-The two big Angels in the meditation room they both have names is there a name for the little one kneeling?
Forces-The Name is a relatively easy one it’s called Spartiel or Spotzie. (Laughter)
BR-It’s more of the undercurrent the angel that comes when you least expect it.
BR-What does he do?
Forces-Just what has to be done.
BR-Thank you.
BR-Was it an angel that I saw in the kitchen a couple of months ago?
Forces-These things do happen question.
BR-Thank you.
NN-Would you help me with the inner light in meditation?
Forces-We will try to help you with that question.
IS-That guy Paul Twitchell it seems his philosophy gives headway to the bully, let the bully rule, he’s saying that much, he’s calling it by a name bully. Now what kind of people are really attracted to him.
Forces-More or less the people of the bull, gonadish and people of the leyden center.
IS-He started as a Science Fiction writer and not a very good one then does he believe in that philosophy?
Forces-Well not necessarily but it only appeases his desires.
IS-He doesn’t even think that he believes in it right?
Forces-It’s good to pass the time away.
Forces-At this point we will be leaving and we will return to you in time to speak to you about details of things to be done. Keep that in mind of the invisible world that surrounds this house and keep the principles sacred and not live that idea that the manifestation of Spirit comes into the earth through the disciplining of the atoms of the earth.
Forces-Greetings to all here present now. Our Father…

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