SESSION 204 12-4-78
published 20 December 11

Forces-(beginning missed) now. We have been floating around the area and ah taking in the sights as you might project it to be. As we move forward in many respects we find there is tremendous change all around us and in this change we find an internal upheavement, upheaval this upheaval is the rights of people versus the big government. A unfortunately the big government has become tremendously big and large in its operation leaving the common peeper, people common like the everyday salt. This is what is the conflict with trusting the government versus trusting the people, the people no longer trust the government so they turn within their own personal organizations and groups and develop them this way from the bottom up. There are many forms of ousting the government without doing it and one of the forms is to turn away from it and create one’s self government within self of dependent upon those things around the government. But in all respect there is an evolution coming about in which government policies will be reviewed and a lot of changes could be in the affect.
Forces-We are now ready for your questions.
BH-With the aspect of attachment you told me about at my job is that including the quality of possessiveness?
Forces-Well more or less not possessiveness as per say but more of a security that in your lifestyle things have been taken away from you after you got acquainted with them leaving you insecure. Life is constantly changing therefore this possessiveness is more of a security mode of trying to identify concretely with things solid and the things in time that all things do change it is up to you to keep the certain perspective within self constant balance within the creative consciousness, Christ consciousness in the physical body if by doing this then all things will change and have no change for all things are not reliable upon change.
BH-Thank you.
DD-Could anything more be given about the word THIS (Tom said T the cross, HIS is I have suffered) as interpreted in the Kabbalah? HIS/T.
Forces-This also could be a solid line of God strength or that of a cross aspect.
DD-What do the other letters like I Have Suffered what does that represent?
Forces-That is more or less the, the sounds of the Name of God, different verbs and letters sounding the names of God.
DD-Is the Trial and the death of Jesus correct in this book I’m reading?
Forces-It is near to correct.
DD-About the elements you said the four elements meet in the center and the gross part of the elements in a circle and the gross part of the elements go to the outer part of the circle. Is that how a ship runs or similar?
Forces-Well all things do meet in the center as we well know that and the other elements do cling on to the end similar question.
LK-Can anything be given about Zikon?
Forces-We think he’s being locked up at the moment. As far as his behavior his pattern unfortunately this particular incident happened because of a black force that had came into the valley. Very few people would realize what was going on but as we have told you before Zikon represents that black force of conquering the black force that comes near. In one respect it was a black force a possession of santanic elements moving through the valley Saturday.
LK-In the future is there anything that we can do so if Zikon goes through this?
Forces-Well the aspect is the black force had to manifest one way or the other. It is better that it manifested in a smaller scale than a person and it is what would be to say on this particular Friday and Saturday aspect you also had the ah force moving on down which manifested with that particular train wreck. None the less the force had to be sent just like from the swine or pigs the force of evil had to be cast into the swine or pigs which later on destroyed them the spirit world and the physical world never really coincides together as far as the logical mind is concerned. This is just one of the many different physical relationships between the spirit and the physical world that modern day man as he’s called cannot really figure out.
GL-When Amelius manifested as Adam did he manifest in five different places at once as five different Adams in five different bodies?
Forces-That is correct.
GL-Could you describe the circumstances that each of these Adams found themselves in, in their development?
Forces-The exact same circumstance as the first one.
GL-How many people were around Adam in each case?
Forces-Well you don’t know how round he was but it could be somewhere around a large amount of 300,000, 400,000 and up.
GL-Could you explain more about the 144,000 where they came from?
Forces-These are souls that were preparing to come into the earth to help bring some spiritual awareness to the already darkened planet.
GL-How were they gathered in the heavens, how did they gather together?
Forces-Some joker blew a bugle and they all came together. (Laughter)
GL-You mean there was like a call sent out throughout the Universe and these souls responded?
Forces-Yeah. Hurry up and come on down. (Laughter)
GL-Is there a affirmation or chant that I could use at work?
Forces-Let a spirit of the Light surround me that I might be of service to those who are in need. That should help you with some of the sick minds.
GL-Thank you very much.
BR-Is there any guidance for me?
Forces-Well were saying taking it one step at a time just try to be conscious of your movements to and fro throughout the house it should work itself out.
BR-Thank you.
RH-What was so strange about today or was there anything strange about the weather the wind?
Forces-More of a changing of the Spirit consciousness the black forces being sent away and a Spirit front is coming in.
RH-Thank you.
RH-Also Tom said the sicknesses in the house were to make ready for the Christmas season could any more be given on that?
Forces-More or less of ironing out some of the qualities within self and spending them and getting rid of them.
RH-Thank you.
RU-The discussion that IS and I had last night about helping Jacob at Venture Bound and commitment there…?
Forces-With each passing day they have to have their own personal commitments understand what is needed and try to give it as best as they can when the situation call for it. More or less the awareness or the attunement of trying to be of service and correction for these children that when they need the help to look deeper than just the outward appearance of things maybe the aspect of something deeper that is bothering them trying to allow them to talk it out and bring it out rather than to act it out.
RU-Thank you.
IS-You talked about government rules that are going to come out. Are they going to be against commune living?
Forces-Well they won’t come out directly to say those things it would be ah one of their most constitutional slights that they could have or could do but they would not condone or condemn it but just open up a set of ah sections for those who need help or advice while in it or out of it.
IS-Am I correct in understanding that the trend now is more toward commune life in any way shape or form?
Forces-No matter how you shake the salt it still comes out this way.
IS-So it’s actually their fear of losing their way of life?
Forces-Remember it is not the government that does this type style but remember it is the hierarchies and the angels and God who has predestined since the beginning of time what type of evolution will take place on the earth next unfortunately for those who are not happy with it this is the season and the time for this to manifest.
IS-So is it coming the time where the saints will be given over to the black force?
Forces-Well not at this moment in time but we’ll let you know when that is about to happen.
IS-HI and JB should they stay at the school?
Forces-That has to be a personal decision on themselves whatever they would want to do we would try to work with them on the outcome.
IS-They’re not ready to come in here right?
Forces-There is that possibility that they could enter now.
IS-But certain things have to manifest?
Forces-Still there are other things that need to be worked out they still have their own personal things that they want, therefore it is better as guests or friends or relatives visiting other relatives rather than (co—-) of the organization of power and of that which you represent.
IS-Thank you.
IS-What happened Saturday, Friday night and Saturday that’s like the white forces time what happened where did this evil come from what happened that it was evoked so strong?
Forces-Well the Saturday Friday is still there but it would have been stronger if it wasn’t on that day. It was just the onslaught of forces of evil coming into the county before a positive force was coming.
IS-So it wasn’t that they came in it was that you just opened the door?
Forces-More or less.
IS-To have them in at that particular time?
Forces-And for other things to happen.
IS-Am I understanding my personal thing with what happened with Zikon?
Forces-Your understanding it ah not to the fullest but you are comprehending percentage wise the percentages of it and the variations and the mysteries of it.
IS-Could I be given some more?
Forces-We also must keep in mind that changes on the physical is changes on the spiritual and these changes have no approach or ah happening with the physical they affect the spiritual first. If people realized the prayers and the meditations and the services affect your future days to come they would be more aware and conscious of being careful to do their best if they only understood how much and how important it is that on a spiritual level is how you create the physical level is only after the creation.
IS-It’s not the changes but rather ones place in those changes?
Forces-This is it that you’ll be able to keep yourself in the sacred host of life in the Christ Spirit in the center eye while everything around you moves.
IS-Thank you.
IS-Zikon would he hurt a human being?
Forces-We don’t perceive that he would be doing that, if he would do that it would be a sad day but as far as we can perceive he is not slated for doing that.
IS-So in reality he’s safe?
Forces-He is safe.
IS-But?
Forces-It is better to contain him for the area that he’s in or centralize him with all the energy that comes through him.
IS-So that also is a point that he didn’t have his own place?
Forces-Yes and no he had a lot of other things to get into balance before he finally settles into one place.
IS-Thank you.
IS-In Ezekiel there talking about the new Temple the new Jerusalem and there talking about those that will “you have polluted my House by bringing in strangers and uncircumcised in spirit and uncircumcised in flesh” they’re specifying that and the new Temple you shall not bring in anyone that is uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh they’re specifying that what is…?
Forces-More or less the feeling and expression of the circumcision of the spiritual mind, the mental mind, and the physical mind ah not just the circumcision of the physical body but more of a circumcision of the desires of the physical body.
IS-That is why the Jews didn’t allow other religions in the Temples.
Forces-Well this is a factor you have to give it to them.
IS-In the New Jerusalem Ezekiel’s talking about is there going to be a building on a physical level then they also speak of sacrifices goats and sheep?
Forces-There will be different types of sacrifice rather than just the goats and the sheep.
IS-But there will be also that?
Forces-Yes of course they would have that but that will not be the main purpose.
IS-But that will still remain as a symbol?
Forces-As a symbol and other sacrifices according to the animal world.
IS-And also feeding the Priests?
Forces-Yes.
IS-Thank you.
IS-Sir Galahad was there a figure like that and if so was he a reincarnation of Jesus Christ?
Forces-Well he goes along the thought of a Christ Spirit and it is all very great symbology as they might say but these characteristics do exist everywhere in the world.
IS-Of Sir Galahad?
Forces-Of that of journey in for the search of true wisdom and true enlightenment.
IS-But did it happen actually?
Forces-It happened but to a smaller degree.
IS-Than what it is emphasized…?
Forces-Correct.
IS-So he wasn’t really a Second Coming or anything like that.
Forces-Well maybe he was the second person coming down the street.
IS-The people in the Middle Ages they truly believed that was the major thing in their life is religion. They were waiting for a Second Coming too right and maybe there were other Ages where they were waiting for a Second Coming and maybe they did bring in something what was that something that they brought in?
Forces-The Spirit of, of Joy and enlightenment of productivity.
IS-But it was incarnated in a person also right?
Forces-Yes.
IS-And King Arthur still stands for the Christ Spirit?
Forces-Yes the Father Source of the Christ Spirit.
IS-Guinevere is not the Mother Source right?
Forces-No.
IS-Now who was the entity Tom at that time that he has responsibilities for England till this day.
Forces-One of the major people that were not really written down about, someone that we don’t go into at the moment.
IS-He was not written anywhere about?
Forces-Not directly no.
IS-How is VR and SO doing?
Forces-Well they are doing the best that they can possibly do it is that they’re gone into a different evolution of the American type force growing a different experiences of their nature. Could be doing much better than they are but then the elements will take care of that for them.
IS-Do they have a chance on a spiritual level this lifetime?
Forces-Well they are working out physical things now.
IS-Thank you very much.
IS-It says in the Bible to go out and do missionary work is then missionary work correct?
Forces-When done right missionary work is correct.
IS-For those who they give it to?
Forces-Yes.
IS-What does it mean when it’s done right?
Forces-Without demanding that they do it but just showing them how to be done or how it should be done but also allowing other religious factors to come in of spiritual practice.
IS-You said the black forces coming in and you coming in what is going to happen?
Forces-For what.
IS-You said the black force had to come in so the white force could come in?
Forces-Well we hope to do a few other things before the years out.
IS-And our going to New York when would be the best time?
Forces-Any time that you choose from this point on will be ok.
NN-Thank you very much for all the fruits?
Forces-Any time. If you worked harder you would have found a little bit more.
NN-Today you mean?
Forces-Yes.
NN-Psalms 111 through 118 if they’re taken as a group what miracle would that represent?
Forces-Not only is (——) that you read all the way through. What this would also represents, represent the multiplication from nothing to everything, abundance.
NN-Thank you.
NN-Also when you spoke of the Madonna (in space) a few months ago in a Session could you tell more about that?
Forces-It is just that the female aspect governs the earth as far as the psychic and spiritual realm is concerned.
NN-Thank you very much.
MK-A few Sessions back you mentioned about new ideas coming in as far as construction did that mean how to build things or new type of materials or different materials?
Forces-Everything, the upper third floor and the room you’re working on.
MK-That is in reference to the rooms that IS…?
Forces-Correct.
MK-Thank you.
JE-Did they ever find the Holy Grail?
Forces-Well they did.
JE-Where is it now?
Forces-Somebody’s keeping it in a trunk.
JE-Do they know what it is?
Forces-Some do some don’t, every monastery has the Holy Grail, every other monastery has something else, you might find it in ah the Holy Grail in Jerusalem or somewhere in Egypt.
IS-Is it endowed with all the Miracles they say about it?
Forces-It has some powers to it, unbelievable but they do exist.
IS-There’s only one real one?
Forces-Oh yeah there’s only one real McCoy.
IS-And that one is in Jerusalem?
Forces-Outside of Jerusalem into Egypt.
IS-A private owner has it?
Forces-More or less it’s a private Abbott, an Abby private person, in his private room.
IS-And does it still do things?
Forces-Yeah it gets up and it walks around, no it does many things that could be very powerful.
IS-Joseph of Aramathea they talk about him starting Christendom in England is that correct.
Forces-It is.
IS-Was he the one that was supposed to be Mary’s husband?
Forces-Ump well something like that happened.
IS-And he became such a disciple, did his son have a Round Table or a table period, a group?
Forces-Yeah he had a square table a round table, up, down table; he had something going for him.
IS-And things happened the Seat of Danger and all that?
Forces-Yes.
IS-People disappeared and…?
Forces-Something similar.
IS-Thank you.
JE-Did this group exist or was it together as a group in the time of King Arthur and if so what functions did it perform?
Forces-Well not the whole group it did not exist the whole group no.
JE-Could you explain the ones that did exist what functions they performed?
Forces-Certain strong functions of group organization within the Courts and different counties around.
JE-Around King Arthur himself?
Forces-Yes. Question.
IS-The prophecy that King Arthur will come back, rise from his grave is that going to happen?
Forces-Well the Spirit of it will come back in the way people live.
IS-Then the Second Coming, is there ever going to be a Second Coming in flesh?
Forces-(—-) will be.
IS-Will that be in our time this time?
Forces-Well you’ll see something very strong.
IS-Ever generation has been waiting.
Forces-And each generation received their own personal Christ.
IS-But I mean the Christ the way the Bible is speaking of, coming down from the clouds and …?
Forces-You’ll be seeing something to that extent.
IS-Thank you.
RU- The painting that Tom did of the Holy Grail is that the shape that it’s in and not that Chalice sort of shape that is usually shown?
Forces-Something similar.
RU-Also the people that were stopped by the side of the road early Saturday morning and said they had seen a UFO did they and was that a positive or a negative force that they saw?
Forces-They did, positive. Question.
RU-Thank you.
IS-Does Zikon understand what’s happening to him why he’s being chained?
Forces-He has some understanding to it he doesn’t understand why fully, he knows he’s there.
Forces-At this point we will only say to you that is there anyone else that has any other questions before we say this.
IS-The plumbing in the boiler room the thing that keeps leaking what does DD need to do in order to set it in order and how…(tape stops)
Forces-(tape resumes) closer look at it and maybe if he attempts it one more time he might be able to correct it.
IS-Is the Gothic bedroom proceeding according to…?
Forces-You perceived accurately.
IS-And the bedrooms upstairs?
Forces-That will take time but that will work itself out.
IS-But this is sort of the ideas?
Forces-You have the ideas coming in very nicely.
IS-Thank you very much.
IS-Is there anything for the entity Tom?
Forces-No he’s will work itself out. Question.
IS-Is there anything for HA that can be said at this point.
Forces-Only it would be good for the entity to take her out for lunch and breakfast or as he had in his mind creating a different rapport and maybe a different relationship all together.
IS-Me included?
Forces-Yes if this is; is this would go along.
IS-MK’s sister?
Forces-This need take time to develop we won’t rush into that one.
LK-Is there anything in New York we should look for that we haven’t thought of yet?
Forces-We will give you some type of understanding of the things you need, but your list is coming along alright you’ll be guided if you need other things but we can’t see too many things at the moment but we will guide you to them when you’ll need them.
IS-And the money where I’m taking it from and how?
Forces-This is ok, this will be alright, more if needed it will be worked itself out.
Forces-At this point we will be leaving but we again say we are not leaving you alone that we will help you in many different respects that will be unbelievable to you ah we want so much for you to get this particular work in order and we will try to do our best to help you all out just do your best to help the situation and us out, ah birds of a feather no, eye for no, hand in the p—no, whatever it is scratch my back I scratch yours or whatever the slogan goes along with this do your best and the Indians don’t come your way. (Laughter)
Forces-Greetings to all here present now.
Group-Our Father.

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